tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5303246073824127471.post1864437699983411827..comments2024-03-28T08:17:02.778-04:00Comments on Multiplication by Infinity: Super-determinismSteven Colyerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5303246073824127471.post-71250172271213429622011-06-05T07:58:23.071-04:002011-06-05T07:58:23.071-04:00Not an answer so much as an opinion. So it's n...Not an answer so much as an opinion. So it's not really bad, so much as unsatisfying.<br /><br />My basic attitude is this: I only have this thing called "consciousness" for a very short time. Or perhaps if the Hindus and Buddhists are right, forever. In any event, when I die, I'll worry about it then.<br /><br />Spending the rest of my life devoting even one second to the issue seems to me, personally, a waste of my time. As a biologist, if YOU wish to pursue it, then good for you, go for it. I think the answer WILL come from Biology, not from Physics, and especially not from a Mathematician such as Roger Penrose.<br /><br />And in any event, I don't think we're even close to making a significant advance in Consciousness Science for 50 years, simply because we do not have enough information now. I don't expect to be around in 50 years, so good luck to you and yours in following your dream.Steven Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5303246073824127471.post-83570413628031481932011-06-05T04:36:15.823-04:002011-06-05T04:36:15.823-04:00A bad answer. There are plenty of microscopic part...A bad answer. There are plenty of microscopic parts in you. Not the least your receptors.Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5303246073824127471.post-27835135465759209852011-06-03T11:59:00.505-04:002011-06-03T11:59:00.505-04:00In this way: I am macroscopic and so is my conscio...In this way: I am macroscopic and so is my consciousness.Steven Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5303246073824127471.post-90818177025744930572011-06-03T01:19:43.076-04:002011-06-03T01:19:43.076-04:00In which way would consciousness be macroscopic?In which way would consciousness be macroscopic?Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5303246073824127471.post-25045504489310229212011-06-02T16:24:02.994-04:002011-06-02T16:24:02.994-04:00Ulla, as you get to know me better you will see I ...Ulla, as you get to know me better you will see I am skeptical that free will even exists, and that all talk of consciousness should not be taken seriously until the later part of this century, if not the 22nd. <br /><br />Consciousness is a macroscopic property, most likely, and quantum mechanics certainly doesn't explain it, nor free will, although that was a common "thought" in the 20's when Heisenberg introduced Uncertainty. By "thought" I mean by non-physicists who do not understand the theory.Steven Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5303246073824127471.post-65216674692126405622011-06-02T15:55:29.780-04:002011-06-02T15:55:29.780-04:00I forgot!
This may be seen as an ionization energy...I forgot!<br />This may be seen as an ionization energy change with iniert matter as endpoint. See decaying chains. <br />The energy is oscillating between the different energylevels. This is a charachter of life, (and free will?).Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5303246073824127471.post-84898864071376855792011-06-02T15:52:12.366-04:002011-06-02T15:52:12.366-04:00This is interesting from the aspect of free will. ...This is interesting from the aspect of free will. Also the degrees of freedoms are important. Usually we say the complexity is growing, but at the same time we go towards higher entropy (=lower energy level) for both ordinary and living matter. Matter is only temporarily living. <br />What makes this living capacity?<br /><br />If we assume the degrees of freedoms are not infinite, but finite (no hierarchy or topology) we get also a finite amount of choises (determinism). This is the same as the quantizition of matter on-shell, so all matter is deterministic. We have not every choise left for this world. In quantum world we still have all the choises.<br /><br />The question is then what directs the deterministic matter, is it a) inherent in the matter itself, or b) from the quantum world? <br /><br />a) then we have finite amount of choises andIN THE END no free will. But free will is a living charachter, and we may not use every choise in our lifetime, though it sometimes SEEMS as if we would. This capacity of making choises is vanishing with time.<br /><br />b) free will is coming from the infinite quantum world and is endless. Note that this alternative is free from time and distance. = Dimensionless? It is not realized maybe in a lifetime, but needs many lives? :)<br /><br />Free will may be linked to consciousness in the vacuum field?Ullahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16634036177244152897noreply@blogger.com